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PantyFanatic
07-08-2011, 11:05 AM
I watched the first touch down, along with people from neighboring factories, on a small B&W TV. :(
Scarecrow
07-08-2011, 12:38 PM
I remember when the first Mercury ship went straight up and came right back down. That was the first time man had been in space. And now it all seems to be over.
PantyFanatic
07-08-2011, 02:16 PM
:nod:
gekkogecko
07-08-2011, 02:55 PM
I remember when the first Mercury ship went straight up and came right back down. That was the first time man had been in space. And now it all seems to be over.
Incorrect on both counts. Gagarin beat Sheppard into space, and people in general, and Americans in particular will be on the international space station for at least the next year. Log after Atlantis has returned.
But really, next stop for us should be Mars.
Oldfart
07-08-2011, 07:04 PM
I remember when the first Mercury ship went straight up and came right back down. That was the first time man had been in space. And now it all seems to be over.
He was the first American in space, although there's an argument that Scott Crossfield beat him in the X-15.
An almost unknown Russian by the name of Yuri Gagarin beat Al Shepard jr into space, and he did a full orbit.
PantyFanatic
07-08-2011, 11:11 PM
.....An almost unknown Russian by the name of Yuri Gagarin ......
Not quite as unknown as some agencies would have preferred at the time and certainly well known in the eastern hemisphere.
ScarCrow is right though about the first US rush of rockets after Sputnik in 57. There was a lot of criticism for giving the world grandstand seats to the literal flops of it's sudden entry into the space age. The laughing stopped as the world watch the USA put it's full attention to a new task again to produce success and results that has benefited every person around the world in everyday life. As part of this new direction for mankind, NASA produced this shuttle program that gave us Hubble and made the ISS possible, to point at only a couple accomplishments. The knowledge advancements for the specie has been greater than any other individual effort in history and in less time. This happened in a different time with different people. :(
That's my story and I'm sticking to it. ;)
dicksbro
07-09-2011, 03:24 AM
I find it a bit disgraceful that we are now dependent on Russia for transporting astronauts into space. Oh well, maybe in the next year or two we can buy rockets from China. :(
PantyFanatic
07-09-2011, 08:14 AM
This is among a number of things some of us find disappointing for MY country.
......a different time with different people. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-confused013.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
jseal
07-09-2011, 08:29 AM
... And now it all seems to be over.
That part of it is.
Lord Snow
07-09-2011, 08:51 AM
If you think about it, decommissioning the space shuttle somewhat makes sense. The technology it uses is far surpassed by our smart phones. That's not to say it doesn't still work just fine, but should probably be updated. Who is to say that NASA isn't going to design and build something that could take us, not just to the space station and the moon, but to Mars as well? I don't think of it as the end, but just a pause so that the next chapter is even better.
jseal
07-09-2011, 08:58 AM
... Who is to say that NASA isn't going to design and build something that could take us, not just to the space station and the moon, but to Mars as well? ...
Congress & the White House.
Lord Snow
07-09-2011, 10:22 AM
Both of which are more than willing to spend the tax payers dollars for anything these days. Besides, I never said when it might happen. Could be in 20 years when they finally develop something like that. Could be another 50. All I'm saying is it's a possibility.
Scarecrow
07-09-2011, 06:09 PM
I am afraid that as far as the USA is concerned NASA and the space program is dead unless private money becomes involved. The government is giving all of our money to their own causes.
Oldfart
07-09-2011, 06:17 PM
I don't like the idea of having to get a visa from the Chinese or the Indians to visit the Moon or Mars.
dicksbro
07-10-2011, 04:33 AM
Let's see ... we can borrow the money from China to hitch a ride on a Russian rocket. What happens if we get a man up there and the Chinese decide not to lend us the money to bring him home? :shrug:
Just asking.
Oldfart
07-10-2011, 07:45 AM
It's only a short term worry.
They'll deorbit the ISS before 2020, with all that lovely tech which took billions to get up there getting a free lift home.
PantyFanatic
07-10-2011, 09:31 AM
WOOOOO! http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-fc/rant.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)
Unfortunately, ........... you happen to be just a little too tech savvy especially in topics of this nature. Please say that statement is another slice of that convoluted Aussie humor. Do you have any insight that could lead to the demise of, what to me is one of the slim hopes for our species future, the ISS?
Scarecrow
07-10-2011, 03:57 PM
We could always get a ride with the Japanese space agency
Oldfart
07-10-2011, 05:50 PM
WOOOOO! http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-fc/rant.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)
Unfortunately, ........... you happen to be just a little too tech savvy especially in topics of this nature. Please say that statement is another slice of that convoluted Aussie humor. Do you have any insight that could lead to the demise of, what to me is one of the slim hopes for our species future, the ISS?
Atmospheric braking is slowly dragging the ISS back to ground.
Each of the shuttles burns off the last of it's fuel pushing the ISS those few miles higher.
The Russkis won't be able to do that as well, so eventually they'll controlled deorbit it so it doesn't drop on some random city.
PantyFanatic
07-10-2011, 05:57 PM
or.... how about it DOES drop on some specific city of Washington. :cool:
If that's allowed to happen, start......... I mean finish the culling. I'm sure there's a truly evolved specie some where else.
dicksbro
07-10-2011, 05:59 PM
Since we'll probably not be able to pay our way, maybe they'll just make sure it's not one of THEIR cities. :shrug:
gekkogecko
07-11-2011, 09:47 AM
The Russkis won't be able to do that as well, so eventually they'll controlled deorbit it so it doesn't drop on some random city.
http://www.ovff.org/pegasus/songs/falling-down-on-new-jersey.html
jseal
07-11-2011, 06:56 PM
http://www.ovff.org/pegasus/songs/falling-down-on-new-jersey.html
"Falling Down on New Jersey"
Absolutely marvelous!
Dearsweet and I did it in harmony! Love it!
Ah! If only Stan Rogers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPYAZUcohmw) were able to do it!
Oldfart
07-21-2011, 07:37 AM
The last has returned.
Lilith
07-21-2011, 09:02 AM
I had several southerly friends remark about the sadness of hearing the re-entry booms for the last time.
gekkogecko
07-21-2011, 11:27 AM
Welcome home, good ship & crew Atlantis.
PantyFanatic
07-21-2011, 11:36 AM
Much sadness is heard for this last time. :(
Occasionally the specie does something worthwhile but most often that seems to be quickly corrected.:cool:
jseal
07-21-2011, 07:47 PM
Sic transit gloria mundi.
There will be another tomorrow.
Someday.
Oldfart
07-21-2011, 10:32 PM
Was that Gloria sick on the bus last Monday as well?
dicksbro
07-22-2011, 04:30 AM
The biggest problem for NASA will be holding the team together without manned missions available. What if the next telescope needs eyeglasses (like Hubble)?
jseal
07-22-2011, 04:59 AM
There may not be a next telescope (http://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/post.cfm?id=threat-of-james-webb-space-telescop-2011-07-07).
Oldfart
07-22-2011, 10:06 AM
I saw that. Not nice.
Scarecrow
07-22-2011, 12:22 PM
NASA is laying off 10,000 workers.
jseal
07-22-2011, 03:10 PM
An emotional tribute to the Space Shuttle Program (http://links.email.scientificamerican.com/ctt?kn=26&ms=MzY4NDkzMjgS1&r=NTM5NzIyNDIxNAS2&b=0&j=MTA3MDEzMzAxS0&mt=1&rt=0).
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