Bush or Kerry...Who would win if pixies was the universe (well america)?

[BIGbad]

Just a simple poll to see if we can predict the winner of the presidential race.

Please everyone vote american, brit, aussies, kiwis whomever...

[BIGbad]

A little something to remind you of the candidates

Bush or Kerry? (http://atomfilms.shockwave.com/contentPlay/shockwave.jsp?id=this_land&preplay=1&ratingBar=off)

DC (http://atomfilms.shockwave.com/contentPlay/shockwave.jsp?id=goodtobeindc&preplay=1&ratingBar=off)

[Mercury_Maniac]

i don't think it really matters, nothing really changes at all really, except taxes keep getting higher,


but i think, but i'm unsure of who i'm voting for, but i think that Kerry will win it

[Loulabelle]

I think the general consensus on this side of the pond is, 'Anyone but Bush'.

I just wish we got to vote, because with Tony B Liar the way he is, whoever runs America is also running Britain, so it's more relevant to us, than you know!

[nikki1979]

i don't think it really matters, nothing really changes at all really, except taxes keep getting higher,


but i think, but i'm unsure of who i'm voting for, but i think that Kerry will win it


hun, for the american military it matters alot, i know if u aint mil that dont affeft u directly but it affects me , if kerry wins we will more than likly not get a pay raise this year and if we do itll be crap, also i belive there will be even more budget cuts to the military made by kerry than neone knows, just a general thing hes not pro military like bush is, bush has done a few cuts but not near as many that cud be doen , do im on the edge of my seat w this election wondering if kerry wins if we will still have a job.im not aware if the military thing has been covered at any debates bc i dont get them over here, but i do know hes democrat and they dont like us.

~nikki

[Lilith]

Nikki...there are tons of millitary democrats and Kerry said in debate 2 and 3 he will add new permanent troop divisions (since you missed them).

[jseal]

...and politicians ALWAYS keep their promises! :rolleyes:

[Belial]

They also do things they did not promise to do.

[Cindy Kim]

I've come to hate politics with a passion. None of them have my trust. The only dilemma for me is that I feel it's my duty to vote, but there really isn't anyone I want to vote for. It's a tremendously negative feeling voting AGAINST someone - I would love to be inspired enough to vote FOR someone. Maybe I'll just write-in Lilith. How much would she hate me if she won?

Cindy

[jseal]

...I would love to be inspired enough to vote FOR someone

Hear Hear!

[WildIrish]

Maybe I'll just write-in Lilith.


It's a tough job. One with a lot of serious responsibility.


She's gonna need some good people under her. :D

[Lilith]

Nikki I found this since you did not get to see them

http://www.debates.org/pages/debtrans.html

Can you imagine what I'd do to my interns????? The White House would have cams set up in the Lincoln bedroom :p

[Aqua]

*Volunteers to be Lilith's chair and also dutifully clean the oval orifice*

[jseal]

BIGbad,

I just followed your links, and enjoyed them all over again! They're great! Thank you.

[Cindy Kim]

*considering an internship in the Oval Office*

[WildIrish]

Can you imagine what I'd do to my interns?????


You don't smoke cigars, do you? :eek:

[lakritze]

I cannot see any fun loving,peace loving,sex positive pixie voting for the antithesis of all that concerns us.I'm voting the Kerry-Edwards ticket,but I am also voting...ABB. The man has got to go..Another 4 years is unthinkable.

[nikki1979]

Nikki...there are tons of millitary democrats and Kerry said in debate 2 and 3 he will add new permanent troop divisions (since you missed them).


i belive him as far as i can throw him


~nikki

[Mercury_Maniac]

the more things change, the more they stay the same



thats what i think anyway

[dicksbro]

Said it somewhere else ... the worst thing about elections (especially national) ...

... you always end up with a politician in office.

[Scarecrow]

how to pick the lesser of two evils???


At least Hanoi Jane apologized.

[smithy020]

well nader is not a opition so is kerry the less of the pair of evil? well for the safety of the world i hope its kerry

[Kendall]

I suspect this Pixies group is not representative of the national average based on the lopsidedness of the results that I just observed. This result is revealing. I think it suggests that the majority of Pixies haven't been duped (are more informed than the average).

[BIGbad]

What a very surprising vote (well so far), it appears as though pixies’ is skewed to the liberal side. Well go figure I never expected that :rolleyes:

It does seem to be the choice between dumb and dumber, I too long for a leader that can lead.

Jseal - I enjoy them at least once a week, I am glad that you could as well.

[BIGbad]

The polls are still open!

We can surely muster up more than 34 voters. :(

[jseal]

BIGbad,

That can be a problem sometimes.

[Mae]

Lilith...Tim Curry in "IT" gave me the willies. Whew! As for voting...for some reason, Bill Clinton comes to mind.

[joe_someguy]

I'm totally with Nikki on this one! I'm military too, so this really affects us a LOT! I'm not the biggest supporter of Bush's policies or his public persona, but I can't imagine what would have happened to us in the past couple of years if Kerry had been in the White House. It's easy to say and do what you think the people want you to say and do so that you'll get voted in, but we need a leader...someone that's not afraid to do the hard jobs, make the tough calls, and stand behind the people that are making the sacrifices that allow us to live in a relatively free society. And anyway, who wants to vote for stem cell research? That's just way too scary for me. Enough of my soap box, though...how about the Astros!

[nikki1979]

I'm totally with Nikki on this one! I'm military too, so this really affects us a LOT! I'm not the biggest supporter of Bush's policies or his public persona, but I can't imagine what would have happened to us in the past couple of years if Kerry had been in the White House. It's easy to say and do what you think the people want you to say and do so that you'll get voted in, but we need a leader...someone that's not afraid to do the hard jobs, make the tough calls, and stand behind the people that are making the sacrifices that allow us to live in a relatively free society. And anyway, who wants to vote for stem cell research? That's just way too scary for me. Enough of my soap box, though...how about the Astros!

thanks for agreeing with me :D:D:D:D, tho i wish bush was for stem cell research , i wont debate it cuz i dont know enough about it to debate it but i do belive (imho) that its extremly benificial and could help out loads of ppl , im pro bush BUT i think his two main flaws are the research and anit same sex marrages, but mostpoliticians are ,

~nikki

[dick]

My perspective is 22 years in the military and a vietnam vet. I'm with Nikki on this too. Kerry is a lying, self-serving traitor. At least Jane Fonda appologized, Kerry never did.

Joe

[PalaceGuard]

Both Bush and Kerry don't excite me. I voted for Nader last time, and I think I'll do it again.

[kngnothen]

My perspective is 22 years in the military and a vietnam vet. I'm with Nikki on this too. Kerry is a lying, self-serving traitor. At least Jane Fonda appologized, Kerry never did.

Joe


what should kerry apologize for?....for volunteering to go to war and serving his country honarably?...the republican spin machine has twisted it so that even though bush got out of vietnam the country has turned on kerry who has a great war record while bush does not even have one

[Summer]

During the next Presidential term, the President will be appointing as many as 3 new U.S. Supreme Justices. Whoever is put on that court can serve until they die!! This was my wake up call. Things like Roe vs. Wade, same sex marriages, keeping church and state seperate (just to name a few).

I have a daughter and could have a granddaughter years down the road and I personally don't feel I should be able to make laws over their bodies! In the early 1990's I went to Washington, D.C. and voiced my opinion about this and now I will voice my opinion again through my vote. My 2 cents!!

[Summer]

Both Bush and Kerry don't excite me. I voted for Nader last time, and I think I'll do it again.

I voted Nader last year too. I won't be doing that again because unfortunately I "now" view it as a vote for Bush.

[Irish]

I haven't been posting lately,but everyone has a code that they live by.I,
seriously,don't think that people realise the intense dislike,that VN vets,feel
for the way,that THEY feel that John Kerry stabbed them in the back.To use
his words,"Bands of Brothers" don't do that.Right or Wrong,in his feelings.I was
discharged in 1965,long before he served.As a 10% disabled vet,I will NEVER
forgive him!These are my personal feelings,& I don't care about debating,if
things were done right or wrong.There is NO way that I could vote for Kerry &
as far as I'm concerned,it's ABK(Anything but Kerry)I realise that everyone has,very, strong feelings about this.These are mine.I'm 60 yrs old.I have lived in Conn(south of Mass) & New Hampshire(north of Mass)& in 20 yrs as a senator,I have not seen him contribute anything.I have a plan,also.It's called
ABK! Irish

[Sharni]

Irish *hugz*

I've been wondering where ya been!!

[Scarecrow]

ABK

[Irish]

Sharni---I doubt if I'll start posting again,I just felt so strongly about this,that
I had to express my opinion.It may not be right or wrong,but it's the way that I feel.I'm not saying that anyone is wrong,but I had to express my feelings.I've been trying to avoid disagreements,but MANY,in my generation,
feel the same way.When you put your pants on in the morning,& look at that
scar,you don't need someone else,telling you that you were wrong.As some-
one,who has been,in the motorcycle livestyle,for over 45yrs,I've had enough
bad things,blamed on me.(us) Irish

[PalaceGuard]

I voted Nader last year too. I won't be doing that again because unfortunately I "now" view it as a vote for Bush.

Summer - I can see how you would play it safe this time, being from Florida. My state is considered "safe" by both parties. Not many campaign stops here, I can tell you. Since I dont have to worry about the possibility that Nader will actually change the outcome of the election in my state, I'm free to vote my concience.

Good luck!

[Scarecrow]

They will not let Nader on the ballot in Illinois.
Said he filed to late.

[jseal]

Scarecrow,

I though they managed to keep him off the ballot in Maryland also. Seems I was wrong about that!

[OzKristin]

ah Bush makes up his own words and has lost all of his credibility in my eyes anyway, and as far as Kerry goes he doesn't have good ideas for a lot of things....I can't trust anything I hear from either of them
But what is my main statement is that what they say and what they will actually do are two TOTALLY different things lol

[jseal]

...the President will be appointing as many as 3 new U.S. Supreme Justices...

Summer,

It's comming true soon! I just read a news item that Chief Justice Rehnquist is in the hospital being treated for thyroid cancer.

[Vigil]

I've just been on something of a globe trot. Most people I met just aren't interested in this election.

It's not that they are not interested in the US, rather people feel that US politics is so embedded to the US' national interest, that it doesn't matter who wins - the rest of the world will get more of the same.

For those of us not into political theory (right, left whatever), it does seem a choice of the lesser of two mediocres.

[BIGbad]

Kerry is still winning by a landslide, huh I kinda thought that it would be closer than this? Thanks to all of you whom have taken the time to stop and vote and participate in my little experiment!

BB

[LixyChick]

Here's my opinion (not debatable...not said to piss anyone off...just mine...so, don't get your panties in a bunch over it!)...

John Kerry served in a war that he disagreed with wholeheartedly, but he loved his country and he served! He didn't get his daddy to get him out of it! He volunteered! He voiced his opinion of the war...loud and clear! He voiced his distaste of how the war was conducted and what the men and women who served in it with him were compelled, and even expected or ordered, to do. He fought in battle instead of hiding behind his family connections and avoiding it! And, to top it all off...for shame on him...he spoke out against the war! OMG! Well...it was a fucked up war! And...some people did some really shitty things in the name of said war. And...he spoke aloud about the really shitty things he saw and experienced, because he was actually there to see them and experience them...not off, who knows where, donning a uniform and pretending to be serving, while having his records shuffled so that he got no where near a bomb or bullet. John Kerry was "in the trenches"!!!!!!!

That said...I cannot (and never did) vote for a man who can sling mud at his competition while never answering the questions posed to him...ie: Why didn't you serve in Vietnam? How come we can't find some of your records? Etc...etc. (you all know the questions that have been avoided or swept under the rug).

We have a record high deficit! Why won't GWB address that? I have NO IDEA how he can justify it and I doubt he does either. Matter of fact...I can't even follow one of his speeches fore all the misprounounced/out of context/3rd grade level/smirking/bumbling/garble he presents to us as his "plan" for a better America. He hasn't had a plan of his own in his head since his coke days (how to score it) and how he can drive drunk and get away with that too! And...if I have to take four more years of "nucular", I'll jump off this planet! It's pronounced "nu-cle-ar" mother fucker! Get it right!

*looks down at the soapbox that slid under my feet*

Oops! Anyway...I'm for stem cell research...I'm pro-choice and I NEVER want to go back to the days before Roe vs. Wade...I think our deficit is out of control and on an even worse downhill spiral, and future generations shouldn't have to take this record burden...I want to talk about the conditions of the country today, not 20 years ago when we have no control over what is already done...I want the problems addressed and I want to hear concise plans for how to get out of this trouble we are in (ie:deficit, end to the war, health care, future scientific research, keeping good paying jobs in this country...etc.)...I think John Kerry has better ideas on how to do this and I think he is more in touch with the common people and their concerns than GWB is. Matter of fact...I think GWB is only in touch with the voices in his head! I don't think he has a clue of how "the other half" lives, but from what he reads from his speech maker's, and I really don't think he understands/absorbs/comprehends what he is reading...because he is trying too hard to enunciate without flubbing it again. Notice...I said "trying to enunciate"!

Geezzzzz...ok...I'm done and I think I made my opinion clear! I'm voting for Lilith!

LOL!

[jseal]

The best news is that this election will soon be behind us!

[PantyFanatic]

The ONLY thing that I can hear when you turn on the radio or TV is about the election. :shock: This next five days are ones I’d be willing to give up if they were past. I’m as tired as everybody of hearing about it. That understood, I will share my “opinion” of the outcome of this upcoming election.

I use my own sources for information about events when they are not happening in a “routine” manner and this election is ANYTHING but routine. When I want to get a feel of what the CURRENT amount of manufacturing activity is in my area, I DO NOT go to the “experts”. I ask the truck drivers. They KNOW how much material is being moved.

When I want to know the current public opinion about something, I do not rely on a professional polltakers that asks strangers questions. I ask a person that talks to a lot of people in a comfortable setting and where they will share their honest, personal feelings instead of academic or emotional statements. I ask my barber what’s on peoples mind. :)

Here is my forecast, not based on what I would like or not like to happen, or what issues we may come after. John Kerry will take it and not by a narrow margin. The election will be over and decided by Wednesday night indisputably.

Personally, I’m casting my Secret vote for Victoria. :lust:

[texascubfan]

For the first time in my life i am not going to vote, because i don't think any of the candidates will do a good job. we have seen how well "W" listens to what the people of America want. we have be shown that kerry isn't to be trusted at his word...either that or he os so foregetful that he forgets which lie he told and to whom it was told. if it seems i am disillusioned with the current state of our government you are absolutely correct. i would like to have someone stand up and tell me what they truly believe and what they truly intend to do to fix the problems regardless if i agree with them or not. i owuld vote for someone i disagree with, before i would vote for someone i don't trust. :box:

[Irish]

Lixy---You're right!If it wasn't for John Kerry,I'd have forgotten about all of those ears,that me & my buddies cut off.Also about the huts that we burned,
the animals,that we shot for fun,the portable telephone wires,etc.It's a good
thing that he could see,what was happening on land,from his Swift Boat.By
the way,it was a conflict,not a war!Just like the Korean Conflict,not the Korean War!They made a BIG deal about 1000 deaths so far.There was a time
in VN,when we had that many deaths a DAY!All for nothing!!!! Irish
P.S.Am I bitter?YES!!!!As long as everyone is throwing in their $.02,I figured,
Why not mine.Why not us,worked for the Red Sox.

[Scarecrow]

John Kerry served just four(yes4) month in VN, he was given a medical discharge after being shot in the foot, reports say it was an american bullet that was removed from his foot. That report came out in the mid 70's. Did he shot himself?? We will never know. But I did not shot any babies.

[Eliza]

Here's my opinion (not debatable...not said to piss anyone off...just mine...so, don't get your panties in a bunch over it!)...

John Kerry served in a war that he disagreed with wholeheartedly, but he loved his country and he served! He didn't get his daddy to get him out of it! He volunteered! He voiced his opinion of the war...loud and clear! He voiced his distaste of how the war was conducted and what the men and women who served in it with him were compelled, and even expected or ordered, to do. He fought in battle instead of hiding behind his family connections and avoiding it! And, to top it all off...for shame on him...................(cont)


*stands up and gives Lixy a Standing O..( the good kind of course) and offeres her a cold drink* :wine:

I couldn't agree more.


~Eliza

[Galatea]

I would have thought in a Pixies world bush was always a winner....

[jseal]

Galatea,

Well, there are Bushes and then there are bushes...

[Vigil]

Seems timely

[jseal]

The specimen ballot arrived yesterday.


The layout is as it will appear on the voting machines here in Baltimore, with the candidates on the left and the charter changes & bond issues on the right; so anyone who takes a look at it should recognize what they see in the voting booth. The voting location address is provided, and underneath that is the time it is open.

At the bottom is the “Instructions for Voting”, and underneath that is “Write-In Instructions”. There is a – brief – description of each of the charter changes & bond issues.


Quite well done. I do believe someone at the Board of Election of Baltimore listened to some of the complaints from last time!

[BIGbad]

15 minutes before the polls close!

[PantyFanatic]

It looks like my barber is full of shit.

[LixyChick]

It's a gloomy morning for me! Damn you...Ohio!!!!

And jseal...at the bottom of our ballots (here in N.E. Pa.) we had a box one could check that actually stated [X I have not checked any of the boxes above and therefore I am not voting for any candidate or issue]...

I stood in line for 2 and 1/2 hours to cast my vote. Why in the world would anyone check that box at the bottom of the ballot??????

[jseal]

...Why in the world would anyone check that box at the bottom of the ballot??????

LixyChick,

I would guess that doing so would – in the event of a recount - prevent any political activist from assigning that vote to any candidate. I’m with you on this one; it isn’t something I would do, but many people do many things I wouldn’t do.

[Scarecrow]

IT's OVER