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Irish
05-29-2003, 11:58 AM
I saw on the news,last night,that a woman had been given a
dishonorable discharge,from the service.I didn't hear what branch,
but it really makes no difference.She was discharged because she
refused to take an Anthrax vaccination because there was no
studies on long term effects on her future children.She was dis-
honorably discharged for failing to obey a direct order.What are your opinions of this?I know that your body is the property of
the Govt., when you enlist,but your future children should not be put at risk! Irish
P.S.My $.02.

Loulabelle
05-29-2003, 12:43 PM
I do not take kindly to others inhibiting my free will. For this reason I would not join one of the forces.

Just like with anything, if you don't like the rules then don't join the club. It's not like she didn't know what to expect before she joined.

I'm not saying that they were right to dismiss her but the question is was she right to join up in the first place?

Sharni
05-29-2003, 01:04 PM
I agree with her being discharged

Lilith
05-29-2003, 01:12 PM
She did disobey a direct order and as a member of the millitary her body and potential future of said body are not her own. I am proud of her for taking a stand however she knew what she was getting into when she signed the enlistment papers.

There are good reasons why someone like me does not have an urge to enlist.

skipthisone
05-29-2003, 01:29 PM
Yep, I liked the fact that they never even brought up the vacine in the trial...it was only about her disobeying an order.

dicksbro
05-29-2003, 02:23 PM
Can't and don't blame the military ... but not sure I really blame her either.

Not sure if the determination to vaccinate the military came before or after her enlistment. If it came after, then she really didn't know she might be putting her future kids at risk. If she enlisted knowing the vaccination was going to occur, then she doesn't have much room to complain.

Seems like, in a perfect world, a category other than "dishonorable" would be maybe more appropriate.

Irish
05-29-2003, 04:36 PM
DB---I agree,completely.They might have passed that AFTER
she enlisted!I,also,agree,that there should be a discharge,
other than dishonorable.Evey job application,that I ever filled
out,had a question on it concerning your discharge.If you put
down"dishonorable",your chances of getting hired are ,very,
slim.Most jobs for another,are just getting your foot in the
door.Then you show them your skills.Forget getting your foot
in the door,if you have a dishonorable discharge! Irish

jennaflower
05-29-2003, 06:54 PM
Considering as of late, I have been very out spoken on my views.... anyone care to guess my opinion on this one? before I post it???? ;)

Scarecrow
05-29-2003, 08:17 PM
Irish and DB were we ever asked if we wanted the Polio vacine??? When I got vacinated to go to the pacific the military gave me every shot avalable at the time including the plague and I was not ask if I wanted it or not. With every now cure there are people who can not tolerate the serum.

Irish
05-30-2003, 09:06 AM
I was on something that ,at the time,was called"mobility."At
the time,I was in SAC.I was a recip(reciprocating)engine
mechanic.I had to keep a bag packed&another set of tools,in
the Alert Room.In the case of an alert,I had to be prepared
to go anyplace, in the world,that they sent me.I had to be ready
to get on any plane&go wherever it went.I therefore had to
have shots,for anyplace&a security clearance.They didn't ask,if
you would take the shots but you agreed to be on mobility.You also have to remember that this was 1961-1965&I was in,from
the age of 17-21.Just a dumb kid that did as he was told&believd
everything that he was told by the Govt!I saw a followup on the
news,last night.I didn't catch it all but I think that she was in the
Reserves. Irish