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Lilith
05-02-2003, 07:53 AM
Mind you I am not in any way encouraging it.... It's just Summer and I got to talking about dating and sex, and open marriages and sex, and naturally 3 somes and sex:D:D:p well you get the picture;)

What I am curious about is, when do you feel it is ok to have unprotected sex? Is there some criteria you use to make that judgement? When do you feel unprotected sex is OK vs. safe sex?

FussyPucker
05-02-2003, 08:06 AM
when the condom you've been washing out for the past 2 weeks finaly gets a hole in it :D

seriously I guess it's when you both feel comfortable enough with eachother to take that step.

Cheyanne
05-02-2003, 08:30 AM
Initially when dating and exploring each other protected sex is a must. I think it is a good idea to practice safe than take a chance. Once lines of communication and trust is established, then it would be a personal choice.

We have teenagers and when discussing sexual issues with them, we promote the ideal of safe sex. Our oldest son was starting to be sexually active at the age of 16.... we didn't approve, but we were of the frame of mind that he was probably going to continue so we had a sit down and discusses safe sex. We gave him condoms, I explained to him how to put one on (using a cucumber) etc. I also explained to him about a woman's cycle and what the times during that cycle that a woman could get pregnant.

Steph
05-02-2003, 10:04 AM
I think we'll only stop using condoms when we want to have kids. I can't stand the pill and the like so this is the best form of protection. We've been together a year now, we're disease free but still, a condom is used every time.

If I were to start swinging or a new relationship, I'd always insist on a condom.

Summer
05-02-2003, 10:20 AM
I made my husband while we were just dating use a condom. And since I am latex/silicone sensitive he had to buy the special ones that cost more. I wouldn't have unprotected sex until he got tested for a wide panel of sexual diseases.

Maybe I am a bit overboard on it. But even when I got pregnant with my first child (and of course second one too) I had him and myself tested for HIV. I would have hated to pass something on to my innocent child.

My husband isn't worried about it at all. I guess I know to much of his past :rolleyes: and um mine too. :rolleyes:

airhog
05-02-2003, 01:15 PM
Well with my last 2 gf's it was about a month into the relationship.

I think if im in another relationship, that I wont take it off unless we both decide to go get tested.

skipthisone
05-02-2003, 01:24 PM
Well I havnt used any type of protection in almost 4 years, had the plumbing shut off. But, then again the right type of sexual rainstorm hasnt come along that I would need a "jacket" in... :D

Btw, Summer I was so like you back when I was single. I was obsessed with protection, but not for std reasons, I was consumed by not getting someone pregnant.

denny
05-02-2003, 10:41 PM
Protected unless the relationship is monogamous and committed.

Wicked Wanda
05-03-2003, 11:33 AM
As the woman who is possibly the BIGGEST (tinest?) slut in Pixie's, I have very strong feeling about condoms.
(Puts on her sexiest nurse's uniform)
Please remember I am an RN (nurse) in a community access clinic, and dealing with people about pregnancy and disease prevention is a regular thing. However we, as a Church operated clinic, do not teach or prescribe BC pills, nor "officially" am I allowed to teach about condom use... (what the Sisters don't know won't hurt them)
Now...
1. If I am with a man who is new in my life, he has on a condom. PERIOD!!
2. If he wants oral sex, (every man does!) I will perform oral sex on him until I sense he is about to cum. I then offer to let him cum on my breasts, or put a plain (unlubed) condom on and then he may cum in my mouth. ( I have learned to tolerate the taste of rubber)
Vaginal sex is always with a condom, until he is tested, and I see the tests, as well as another set done at least 3 months earlier, and my belief that he has not had unprotected sex in those 3 months.
Frankly, very few of my relationships with men last that long...
( I buy condoms mail order, I got tired of smirking pharmacy clerks when I went the store and filled my purse with condoms)

3. I have a group of friends, " Fuck Buddies", men, women and couples, who limit their unprotected sexual activities to other people in the group. There is a HUGE amount of trust involved in this, and people have to be tested, and well known before they are part of the group. Most of us work in medicine or the military, and are tested regularly. There is a lot of swinging and swapping and so on, and we (the women) take pecautions against getting pregnant.
By the way, every 90 days I receive an injection of Depo-Provera, a contraceptive, to prevent pregnancy. This has had some very interesting side effects. I have not had a period in about 2 years. I learned that this is not unsual, and once I stop my injections, my menses will resume after 6 months to a year. I still get some very sexual intense feelings and urges about every four weeks or so **Blushing**
4. On those rare occasions when I allow anal sex.. CONDOMS ARE USED!!! PERIOD!!! I have not had anal sex without a condom since my marriage.
5. I get a test for syphyllis, HIV, and Hepatitis C every 6 months, and during my annual GYN exm, I am tested for Gonnorhea and Chalamydia as well.
6. In my sexual relationships with other women, toys are CLEANED between use, and if I have any worries about my partner's disease status, I just limit our contact to kissing, touching and "manual sex" ( fingering) with hand washing after...
Gonorrhea syphyllis, and chlamydia CAN be shared between women, especially while sharing toys.
I never knowingly have sex with bisexual men. I apoligize to the gay and bi men here, I love you all, but the added risks, given my risks already part of my sexual lifestyle, are just too great.
(removes the nurses uniform, and nude, stretches)

Sex is still fun, even with all these precautions, believe me!!!

Sexually ,

Wanda

BlueSwede
05-03-2003, 02:28 PM
Wicked Wanda, I know you said that you've grown accustomed to the taste of rubber. However, if you would like to use a brand that has absolutely no taste whatsoever of rubber, get the Trustex brand of flavored condoms. Unlike the Kiss of Mint condoms, which taste like breath freshener sprayed on a car tire, the Trustex brands taste only like vanilla or cola or whatever. I don't really care if a condom has a flavor, but it sure is nice to NOT have to taste rubber. :)

IceLore
05-03-2003, 02:57 PM
Hmmm, I've recently come to the conclusion, that, as a woman, I completely hate the taste and feel of condoms. I too am latex sensitive, so my partner purchases polyurethane condoms, but, well, we tend to go through them a bit fast. ^_^ Since they are not exactly cheep, they are breaking the bank a bit. Our options are somewhat limited due to the fact that I have asthma and was informed that most pill form contraceptives have a good chance of aggravating my condition. Also, my doctor refuses to even consider any type of permeant contraception, since I am only 21, even though I do not want children and live in mortal fear of becoming pregnant. Also, health and safety are not an issue with my partner, it’s pretty much just the whole pregnancy thing. Wanda, since you seem fairly knowledgeable about this topic, what do you recommend is my best course of action? Or does anyone else have any ideas for that matter?

Oldfart
05-04-2003, 08:15 AM
Unprotected sex?

Does that mean Luigi and Bruno with the shotgun have to stay

in the car?

ericthered
05-04-2003, 09:07 AM
As we are sharing intimate secrets, I must admit that I often visit Pixies for some one-handed typing AND I'M NOT WEARING A CONDOM! Is that living dangerously or what?

whatswithme69
05-04-2003, 11:15 AM
unprotected sex is ok if you really love your partner and its not just like a random fuck or a fuck buddy. my gf and i have done it unprotected a few times and i really enjoyed it (i think she did too). its kindofa different feeling (in my opinion) when its skin on skin rather than skin on rubber

Wicked Wanda
05-04-2003, 11:26 AM
IceLore,
I am sorry, you are asking a question that is so far beyond my education. Only a Doctor, Nurse Practioner or a Physician Assisitant could answer that. I am a lowly RN (smile)
Bit you might want to get a second opinion, maybe see an asthama specialist?

WW

vampeyes
05-05-2003, 06:31 PM
IceLore... I am not an expert by any means but definitely ask your doc about the different options out there .. There are some new ones like the patch and I have been on depo provera for years and it has never aggrevated my asthma. The pill never aggrevated it when I was younger and tried that as well but with severe asthma when you tend to get many chest infections the antibiotics you take flush the pill right out of your system. Defintely ask your OBGYN as they should be able to point you in the right direction . Good Luck :D

rabbit
05-09-2003, 09:12 PM
Since getting snipped, no protection for the misses and I. We are monogamous anyway, so no prob.

rabbit

lizH
05-10-2003, 07:27 AM
Originally posted by IceLore Also, my doctor refuses to even consider any type of permeant contraception, since I am only 21, even though I do not want children and live in mortal fear of becoming pregnant. [/B]

Well, I had my tubes tied when I was 23. The way I did that was that I answered "no" when Planned Parenthood asked me "Did (I) want to ever have any (more) children?)" I asked them for a referral. They referred me to a gyn surgeon who had a reasonable feeling on the matter. He asked me what I would do if I changed my mind. I answered that I would adopt, most likely an older child. After trying to talk me out of it on the basis that I probably could not become pregnant based on the strange position of my uterus and tubes, and failing (having abortions or miscarriages does not sound like fun either), he scheduled it, and I have never been sorry. I am now 40.

You may have a doctor who does not believe in contraception, long term contraception, or who believes "all women (secretly) are chomping at the bit to become pregnant." It may violate his religious convictions. You may want to try Planned Parenthood or other pro-choice family planning clinic.